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יְהוּדָה בֶן טַבַּאי וְשִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן שָׁטָח קִבְּלוּ מֵהֶם. יְהוּדָה בֶן טַבַּאי אוֹמֵר, אַל תַּעַשׂ עַצְמְךָ כְעוֹרְכֵי הַדַּיָּנִין. וּכְשֶׁיִּהְיוּ בַעֲלֵי דִינִין עוֹמְדִים לְפָנֶיךָ, יִהְיוּ בְעֵינֶיךָ כִרְשָׁעִים. וּכְשֶׁנִּפְטָרִים מִלְּפָנֶיךָ, יִהְיוּ בְעֵינֶיךָ כְזַכָּאִין, כְּשֶׁקִּבְּלוּ עֲלֵיהֶם אֶת הַדִּין
שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן שָׁטָח אוֹמֵר, הֱוֵי מַרְבֶּה לַחְקֹר אֶת הָעֵדִים, וֶהֱוֵי זָהִיר בִּדְבָרֶיךָ, שֶׁמָּא מִתּוֹכָם יִלְמְדוּ לְשַׁקֵּר
English
Judah ben Tabbai and Shimon ben Shetach received [the oral tradition] from them. Judah ben Tabbai said: do not [as a judge] play the part of an advocate; and when the litigants are standing before you, look upon them as if they were [both] guilty; and when they leave your presence, look upon them as if they were [both] innocent, when they have accepted the judgement.
Shimon ben Shetach used to say: be thorough in the interrogation of witnesses, and be careful with your words, lest from them they learn to lie.
Commentary
Rodef Shalom Commentary- (2024) Zev ben David, ואוש
Like many Americans, most of what I know about law has been learned from film or television, primarily law and order, but this week I had the pleasure of digging into Jewish legal history and I’d like to share with you some of what I learned. In the time when our Sages wrote their advice, the system of jurisprudence that had developed was one of layers: the first layer consisted of a local Beit Din of three judges, not necessarily rabbis, but righteous learned men over the age of 25 from any walk of life that would meet in the morning at the city gates in small localities to decide disputes. The judges were not state, guild, or temple-appointed, but chosen from the community for this purpose. There was no plaintiff nor defense attorney, but civil disputes could be brought directly by litigants who would be expected to bring forth witnesses and materials for evidence and knowledgeable associates who could help plead their case through knowledge of law, both secular and religious with no clear boundary. Criminal cases were initiated by a minimum of two witnesses to the crime, who served the role occupied by prosecutors in the modern era. Those who bore witness in either kind of trial were not allowed to recount their testimony following the verdict, but those proven to be bearers of false witness were sentenced to suffer the penalty given to the one convicted upon their testimony. Matters of dispute between courts, complex legal interpretation, or affecting whole communities were escalated to the local or nearby lesser Sanhedrin, a court of 27 men over the age of 25 who would judge the case. Convictions in criminal cases required a majority opinion of at least two, while acquittals only required one. For even greater matters, the Supreme Court was the Great Sanhedrin in Jerusalem, composed of 71 men over the age of 40, typically, but not exclusively rabbis who also served as the de facto legislature for the nation of Israel. After the destruction of the Temple, the Great Sanhedrin persisted for several centuries in various cities in the land of former Israel before migrating to former Babylon. The frequently opposed leaders of this body were the Nasi, the prince, and the Av Bet Din, the father of the house of judgment or law, whom we will hear much from in the weeks and months to come.
It is in the context of this setting that I approached this week’s pair of verses and in them a great deal of interpretative bias, some of which has encroached on this ancient wisdom through modern, casual familiarity with legal principles, and some from the abundant freedom granted by the deep vocabulary of the English language. The word judge does not appear in either passage, nor does the phrase advocate, the concept of which was not yet formulated. Instead we see the term “ch’orchei dayanim’” ‘arranger’ or ‘editor’ of the dayanim, the Rabbin judges of the Sanhedrin. Nor does the term guilty or innocent appear, but ‘rasha’, the same term in previous weeks used as ‘wicked’ and ‘zacha’ worthy. If we understand the speakers and their audience, it is perhaps easier to understand the first verse as “Stay in your lane when resolving disputes and assume both litigants are wicked, that is seeking to win their case not out of belief in their righteousness, but out of a motivation to prevail.” And yet when the verdict has been rendered, remember that they are doing their jobs. Some other commentators have noted that both the winner and loser should be happy if the correct verdict is reached after each does their best to advocate for their position. Likewise, the companion verse encourages those in judgment not to lead the witnesses to answering in a way that would allow them to corrupt the judgment by telling the judges what they want to hear. The ideals laid out in these passages summarize what I consider one of the founding myths of our modern justice system that underpins our society. An ideal that frequently falls short, and yet, thus far, refuses to give up.
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Discussion Topics
Topic 1:
Daily JudgmentsFew of us are judges in our legal system, but many of us are judges in our household or workplaces.
Is it reasonable to demand we follow these ideals in our everyday opportunities to judge?Topic 2:
Not GoodHas anyone here been involved in an investigation or served on a jury? What was your experience?
Which is more acceptable in a neighbor?Topic 3:
Century after century, the evil have prospered, flouting the promises of curses for them in the Torah
Our ancestors clung to the promise of retribution in the world to come; should we?Translations
English
Mishnah Yomit- Dr. Joshua Kulp
He [also] used to say: If I am not for myself, who is for me? But if I am for my own self [only], what am I? And if not now, when?
Mishnah Yomit by Dr. Joshua Kulp
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He used to say: If I am not for myself, who will be for me? And when I am for myself alone, what am I? And if not now, when?
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The Mishna with Obadiah Bartenura- Rabbi Shraga Silverstein
Yehudah ben Tabbai and Shimon ben Shetach received it from them. Yehudah ben Tabbai says: Do not you, [(a judge)], make yourself like [those] orchei hadayanim [(lawyers), who arrange (“orchim”) cases for the litigants before the judges, it being forbidden for one (a judge) to reveal his judgments to one of the litigants, telling him: Do thus and thus so that you win your case — even if he knows that he is in the right. Alternately, “ke’orchei hadayanin,” like the great among the judges. This, in reference to a disciple sitting before his master, that he not make himself like the great among the judges, to speak before his master as a decisor of the law. “Orchei” as in “the erkaoth of the gentiles,” the erkaoth of the House of David.” And from others I have heard: “Do not make yourself as the great ones of the judges to force the litigants to come to judgment before you.] And when litigants stand before you, let them be in your eyes like wicked ones, [that you not favor one of them, saying “This one is a distinguished man and will not make a false claim.” For if you say this, you will see no guilt in him.], and when they take their leave of you, let them be innocent in your eyes when they have taken the judgment upon themselves. [Do not suspect the arraigned one as a thief but as one who erred and had no intention of stealing. Or, if an oath was imposed upon one of them and he swore, do not say that he swore falsely.]
Shimon ben Shetach says: Be thorough in cross-examining the witnesses, and be circumspect in your words, lest from them they learn to lie. [Let the judge not say: “Perhaps this and this is what happened,” or “If this were the case, Ploni would be innocent.” From such words, the litigant or the witnesses learn to say what never happened.]
Sayings of the Jewish Fathers (Pirqe Aboth) translated by Charles Taylor
9. Jehudah ben Tabai and Shime’on ben Shatach received from them. Jehudah ben Tabai said, Make not thyself as them that predispose the judges; and while the litigants stand before thee, let them be in thine eyes as guilty; and when dismissed from before thee let them be in thine eyes as righteous, because that they have received the doom upon them.
10. Shime’on ben Shatach said, Make full examination of the witnesses; but be guarded in thy words, perchance from them they may learn to lie.
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Mischnajot mit deutscher Übersetzung und Erklärung
Jehuda, Sohn Tabbai’s, und Simon, Sohn Schatach’s, empfingen von ihnen. Jehuda, Sohn Tabbai’s, spricht: Benimm dich nicht wie die Obersten der Richter; wenn die Processirenden vor dir stehen, seien sie in deinen Augen wie Schuldige, und wenn sie von dir entlassen werden, seien sie in deinen Augen wie Gerechte, sobald sie den Urteilsspruch angenommen haben.
Simon, Sohn Schatach’s, spricht: Forsche gründlich die Zeugen aus, un d sei vorsichtig in deinen Worten, sie könnten sonst daraus lernen, wie sie lügen sollen.
Mischnajot mit deutscher Übersetzung und Erklärung. Berlin 1887-1933 [de]
Source: talmud.de
Digitization: Sefaria License: [missing]
Talmud Bavli- Lazarus Goldschmidt (1929)
JEHUDA B. ṬABAJ UND ŠIMO͑N B. ŠAṬAḤ EMPFINGEN SIE VON JENEN. JEHUDA B. ṬABAJ SAGTE: MACHE DICH NICHT ZUM GERICHTSANWALT; SOLANGE DIE PROZESSFÜHRENDEN VOR DIR STEHEN, SOLLEN SIE IN DEINEN AUGEN SCHULDIG ERSCHEINEN, WENN SIE ABER VON DIR FORTGEHEN, SO SOLLEN SIE IN DEINEN AUGEN SCHULDLOS ERSCHEINEN, WENN SIE DAS URTEIL ANERKANNT HABEN. ŠIMO͑N B. ŠAṬAḤ SPRACH: FORSCHE GRÜNDLICH DIE ZEUGEN AUS, UND SEI VORSICHTIG IN DEINEN WORTEN, DAMIT SIE NICHT AUS IHNEN LERNEN, WIE ZU LÜGEN.
Talmud Bavli. Lazarus Goldschmidt. 1929 [de]
Source: nli.org.il
Digitization: Sefaria License: Public Domain
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Maximes des Pères- Rabbi Rivon (2023)
Yehouda, fils de Tabbaï, et Chimôn, fils de Chatah, furent les disciples de ces derniers. Yehouda, fils de Tabbaï, disait: «Ne te fais pas à la fois juge et partie. Aussi longtemps que les parties (adverses) sont devant toi, considère-les toutes les deux comme présumées coupables, mais dès qu’elles se retirent, regarde-les comme relaxées puisque aussi bien, elles se seront soumises à ton jugement.»
Chimôn, fils de Chatah, disait: «Interroge longuement les témoins, et pèse prudemment tes propos, afin qu’ils n’en déduisent point comment falsifier la vérité.»
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Ritual de oraciones para todo el ano- Marcos Edery (1965)
Iehudá Ben Tabai y Shimón Ben Shataj recibieron la tradición oral de estos últimos. Iehudá Ben Tabaí dice (Tú, juez) no te erijas en consejero de los litigantes. Mientras los litigantes están en tu presencia trátalos a ambos como si fuesen culpables, mas cuando ya abandonen el tribunal trátalos como absueltos, de momento que acataron tu veredicto.
Shimón Ben Shataj dice: interroga a los testigos minuciosamente, mas sé cauteloso con tus palabras no sea que por ellas los induzcas a la mentira.
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Ética dos Pais- Bruno Manuel (2023)
Yehuda ben Tabai e Shimon ben Shetach receberam (o ensino) deles. Yehuda ben Tabai diz: “Não te faças como o conselheiro dos juízes; e quando os arguidos estiverem diante de ti, eles devem ser como malfeitores aos teus olhos; e quando eles forem dispensados diante de ti, eles devem ser merecedores aos teus olhos – quando eles aceitarem o julgamento “. Shimon ben Shatach diz: “Examina cuidadosamente as testemunhas, mas tem cuidado com suas palavras, para que elas não aprendem a mentir.”



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